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anonymous posted on Friday, June 23, 2006  4:26 pm



My data is not converging despite lowering my criterion and increasing the number of iterations. What should I do next? 


There are some suggestions in the user's guide under the topic nonconvergence. If they don't help, send your input, data, output, and license number to support@statmodel.com. 


Dear Mplus team, I would like to run a 1factor model (CFA) with my data (n=177) for the only reason to reject that model  but the model doesn't run. I get the following error: NO CONVERGENCE. NUMBER OF ITERATIONS EXCEEDED Could you help me please? 


Please send your output and license number to support@statmodel.com. 


Dear Mplus team, I have collected data on two different time points. Unfortunately, my N is quite low (n=95 per time point). During a SEM course the teacher suggested that I should do multiple group analysis so I can take the two time points in my model and see if my respondents differ in their answers over time. I tried running my CFA model with my data (n=190) using the grouping variable. However, I get the following error: 'No convergence. Number of iterations exceeded'. I have increased the number of iterations to 50,000 and it still won't converge. Could you please help me with this? 


I assume that you have different subjects at the two time points so that multiplegroup analysis is relevant. As a first step to solve your nonconvergence problem you should analyze each group separately. And if that is problematic, switch to EFA. If this doesn't help, you need to send your output, input, data, and license number to support@statmodel.com. 

Eiko Fried posted on Monday, June 15, 2015  10:50 am



Hi. We're running a longitudinal measurement invariance model, 2 timepoints, 28 indicators, 3 EFA factors, WLSMV estimator. We allow for correlated item residuals across time (x1_t1x28_t1 PWITH x1_t2x28_t2), seeing that otherwise modindices show massive misfit, and that it seems to be recommend in the literature. M1 baseline, M3 strong (thresholds), and M4 strict (residual variances) models converge fine without problems (and fit a lot better than not allowing item residuals to be correlated). Only M3 strong invariance model (loadings) does not converge: NO CONVERGENCE. SERIOUS PROBLEMS IN ITERATIONS. CHECK YOUR DATA, STARTING VALUES AND MODEL. Why could that be? (cannot really post the output seeing that is it way too long) Thank you EF 


If you have not already done so, you should fit the model at each time point as a first step. The same model should fit well at each time point before you test for measurement invariance. 

Eiko Fried posted on Monday, June 15, 2015  12:31 pm



Thanks Linda. When we originally tried the CFA framework, the CFA model we derive from the baseline measurement point does not fit well to the follow up time point. This is why we decided to use the EFA/ESEM framework instead, to which my question refers. Therefore I'm not sure what you mean——since we are using an ESEM approach, the EFA model fits equally well (because it's completely free) to both measurement points (although the parallel analysis suggests 4 factors at baseline and only 3 at follow up) 


If you do not find at a minimum the same number of factors at each time point, you cannot test for measurement invariance across time. 

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