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 rechard posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 6:55 pm
I have some questions about multilevel LCA/LCR, similar to Example 10.3 in User's Guide.
(1) Example 10.3 assumes c#1 and c#2 are related through the common factor f. If I dont believe this, and delete f by c#1 c#2, how will Mplus fit the model? Also, how to get output of variance (and/or correlation) of the two random effects in this case?

(2) Is it possible in Mplus that we assume the two random effects are correlated bivariate normal and estimate the model by maximum likelihood with numerical integration? If so, how?

Thanks very much.
 Bengt O. Muthen posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 7:06 am
1. If you don't use f, and instead say:

c#1 c#2; c#1 with c#2;

then you get variances and the covariance estimated for the two correlated, biv normal random means. So ML uses 2-dimensional numerical integration on the between level.
 Paul Widdop posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 2:56 am

I am running example 10.7 for my data with the following script......

Names are swimming snooker football newoutdo wintersp water cycling fitness golf tenpin jog cricket rackets2;
Missing are all (-9999) ;

USEVARIABLES = swimming - rackets2;

CATEGORICAL = swimming - rackets2;

CLASSES = cb(5) cw(4);
WITHIN = swimming - rackets2;
CLUSTER = lad_code;

STARTS =100 10;

cw#1-cw#3 ON cb;



........But when I run the model I keep recieving the following error message..
*** ERROR in Model command
Unknown variable(s) in an ON statement: CB

... If anyone on th eforum can offer advice that would be great.

Many thanks

 Linda K. Muthen posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 6:45 am
I can't see the problem. Please send the files and your license number to
 Joan W. posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 12:58 pm
Dear Drs. Muthen,

I am using LCA on six math subtest scores with a sample of around 300 children. Those children were from 20 different classrooms. I read from the Mplus manual that Type=COMPLEX can be used to enable corrections to standard errors and chi-square test of model fit for nested data structure.

If my major interest is in number of classes identified instead of significance of path coefficient, is it still important to include Type=COMPLEX? What are the expected consequences when TYPE=COMPLEX is not enabled? Thanks.

 Linda K. Muthen posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 9:20 am
Without TYPE=COMPLEX using only the CLUSTER option and not the WEIGHT option, parameter estimates will be correct, standard errors will be underestimated, and chi-square will be overestimated. Note that a minimum of 30-50 clusters is recommended for TYPE=COMPLEX and TYPE=TWOLEVEL.

If you are not concerned with standard errors and chi-square, you can look at the loglikelihood and BIC to determine the number of classes. They are not affected by non-independence of observations due to clustering. TECH11 and TECH14 will not be correct.
 Ginger Lockhart posted on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 7:53 am
I am running a multilevel latent profile analysis and I would like to change the reference class for the between-level part of the analysis. Is there a way to do this?
 Bengt O. Muthen posted on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 8:54 pm
Are you saying that you have a between-level latent class variable? Perhaps you need to send your output to Support.
 Ginger Lockhart posted on Sunday, October 20, 2013 - 12:38 pm
Hi--yes--I have a between-level latent class variable. I will send my output to Support.
 fritzie cacas posted on Friday, May 19, 2017 - 4:53 am
Hello Sir
I am doing a Multilevel Latent Class Analysis and I want to see the number of students from each cluster that are assigned in every latent classes.

Is it possible sir?
 Bengt O. Muthen posted on Friday, May 19, 2017 - 11:38 am
Is the latent class variable a between-level variable or a within-level variable?
 fritzie cacas posted on Friday, May 19, 2017 - 9:38 pm
This is my model sir

c ON x;
f BY C#1 C#2;
 Bengt O. Muthen posted on Saturday, May 20, 2017 - 12:13 pm
To answer this I need to see your full output. Please send to Support along with your license number.
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