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 Lianne Bakkum posted on Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 11:02 pm
Dear Dr. Muthen,

I am trying to run a two-level mixture model (non-parametric random effects LCA) with 897 participants in 11 clusters, testing 2 within classes and 2 between classes. I ran into the following message:

THE BEST LOGLIKELIHOOD VALUE HAS BEEN REPLICATED. RERUN WITH AT LEAST TWICE THE
RANDOM STARTS TO CHECK THAT THE BEST LOGLIKELIHOOD IS STILL OBTAINED AND REPLICATED.

THE STANDARD ERRORS OF THE MODEL PARAMETER ESTIMATES MAY NOT BE
TRUSTWORTHY FOR SOME PARAMETERS DUE TO A NON-POSITIVE DEFINITE
FIRST-ORDER DERIVATIVE PRODUCT MATRIX. THIS MAY BE DUE TO THE STARTING
VALUES BUT MAY ALSO BE AN INDICATION OF MODEL NONIDENTIFICATION. THE
CONDITION NUMBER IS -0.518D-16. PROBLEM INVOLVING THE FOLLOWING PARAMETER:
Parameter 23, %WITHIN% %CB#1.CW#2%: [ DETAIL$1 ] (equality/label)

THE NONIDENTIFICATION IS MOST LIKELY DUE TO HAVING MORE PARAMETERS THAN THE
NUMBER OF CLUSTERS. REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PARAMETERS.

I increased the number of clusters to 22 and ran into the same message. I then tried to reduce the number of parameters from 16 to 10 (= less parameters than clusters), but the message still showed up.

I was wondering if this could be a case of model nonidentification? All parameters are binary. I get the same warning message when using the parametric approach.

With many thanks,

Lianne
 Bengt O. Muthen posted on Monday, November 18, 2019 - 4:44 pm
We need to see your full output to say - send to Support@statmodel.com along with your license number.
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