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Anonymous posted on Monday, February 14, 2005  8:35 am



Dear Prof., I would like to use covariates (i.e., aget6 aggpphy6) in plot to show adjusted mean curves. But I even could not get the window mentioned at page 471 in Mplus user guide. Actually, there are few options (10) in my Graph button though PLOT3 is used compared to the list given at page 465 for TYPE=PLOT3 where there are 18 options. What's wrong with my program. Thanks! Daniel The following is my program: title: GirlLTA; data: file is c:\Mplus\Janice\data\JMplus2.dat; variable: names are stid sext6 aget6 aget7 aget8 physic6 physic7 physic8 mental6 mental7 mental8 aggpphy6 aggpsoc6 aggpto6 aggrphy6 aggrsoc6 aggrto6 aggto6 bully6 vicpphy6 vicpsoc6 vicpto6 vicrphy6 vicrsoc6 vicrto6 victo6 bulvic6 shper6 shvic6 aggpphy7 aggpsoc7 aggpto7 aggrphy7 aggrsoc7 aggrto7 aggto7 bully7 vicpphy7 vicpsoc7 vicpto7 vicrphy7 vicrsoc7 vicrto7 victo7 bulvic7 shper7 shvic7 aggpphy8 aggpsoc8 aggpto8 aggrphy8 aggrsoc8 aggrto8 aggto8 bully8 vicpphy8 vicpsoc8 vicpto8 vicrphy8 vicrsoc8 vicrto8 victo8 bulvic8 shper8 shvic8; Auxiliary = aget6 aggpphy6; useobservations are sext6==2;!girls usevariables are physic6 physic7 physic8 mental6 mental7 mental8; classes= c1 (2) c2 (2) c3 (2); missing is .; Analysis: Type=mixture; !estimator=wlsmv; !parameterization=theta; Model: %overall% C3#1 on C2#1; C2#1 on C1#1; !C3#1 on C1#1; physic6 with physic7; physic6 with physic8; physic7 with physic8; mental6 with mental7; mental6 with mental8; mental7 with mental8; Model c1: %c1#1% [physic6 mental6]; %c1#2% [physic6 mental6]; Model c2: %c2#1% [physic7 mental7]; %c2#2% [physic7 mental7]; Model c3: %c3#1% [physic8 mental8]; %c3#2% [physic8 mental8]; plot: type is plot3; series is physic6physic8 (*) mental6mental8 (*) ; output: tech1; tech8; !residual; standardized; !modindices; patterns; Savedata:file is GMMCov; 


If you send your input, output, and data to support@statmodel.com, we can take a look at it. 


I am having a similar problem running a twopart (semicontinuous) growth model (Ex. 6.616 of Mplus manual) with a covariate. Relatedly, is it possible to treat the binary and continuous portions of the twopart model as separate series and plot both curves? Christian 

Thuy Nguyen posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005  11:27 am



The estimated means and estimated probabilities plots may not be available for models with a covariate that require numerical integration. To find out if this is the case, request the output option RESIDUAL. If the model estimated means cannot be computed, there will be a note in the RESIDUAL output section as to why. Consequently, plots will not be available. If it is still not clear why you are not getting plots, please send your files to support@statmodel.com. 

Mplususer posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008  4:41 pm



Dear Prof., I used a Multiple Indicator Growth model for my data and tried to output a plot for estimated factor means vs estimated individual factor scores across time using Plot3 but failed. I thought I could get a plot analogous to that of usual growth models, i.e., "estimated means and observed individual values". Take 6.14 as an example, I wrote PLOT: TYPE = plot1 plot2 plot3; series = f1f3(s); and only obtained histograms, scatterplots and estimated means. Shall I save the factor scores and draw the plot in other software or my syntax is inappropriate. 


You can get an estimated mean plot in Version 5. 

Mplususer posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008  5:22 pm



Sorry, I think I didn't describe my question clearly. Yes, I am using Version 5 and got estimated mean trajectory plot but just couldn't get a plot where we could see both individual trajectories based on their factor scores across time and the estimated factor mean trajectory. For usual growth models, we could see observed individual trajectories vs. an estimated mean trajectory in mplus. For this multiple indicator growth model, I just couldn't get a similar plot. Still take 6.14 as an example, MODEL: f1 BY y11 y21y31 (12); f2 BY y12 y22y32 (12); f3 BY y13 y23y33 (12); [y11 y12 y13] (3); [y21 y22 y23] (4); [y31 y32 y33] (5); i s  f1@0 f2@1 f3@2; PLOT: TYPE = plot1 plot2 plot3; series = f1f3(s); Should I save the factor scores across time for each individual and draw the plot in other software or my syntax is wrong. Thanks! 


If you want to plot the factor scores, you would need to save them and then you could plot them in Mplus or another program. I think it is more important to look at the growth curves for each observed indicator over time. If the shape of the growth curve, linear or quadratic, for example, is not the same for each indicator, then multiple indicator growth does not make sense. 

Mplususer posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008  8:09 pm



Thanks for your instruction and suggestion! 

Mplususer posted on Friday, February 08, 2008  7:54 am



If the individual growth curves generally exhibit three types of quadratic shapes for each indicator while these indicators are invariant across time, can I proceed with multiple indicator growth mixture models? If I can, can I just use the plot of factor mean trajectory vs. individual factor score trajectories instead of several plots for observed indicators? If I can't, what would you recommend? Thanks! 


If the indicators of the factor exhibit the same type of growth, then using a multiple indicator growth model would be acceptable as long as measurement invariance of the factors across time has been established. You say all indicators have quadratic growth so this should be okay. If not, you would need to look at the observed variables separately. 

Mplususer posted on Friday, February 08, 2008  8:51 am



OK. Thanks! 

Gareth posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011  5:11 am



Is it possible to plot estimated growth curves for different levels of a covariate, in addition to the observed data curves, on the same plot? How is this achieved? 


Use the plot menu option "adjusted estimated means and individual observed curves" 

Gareth posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011  1:14 am



I can only see 'Adjusted estimated means' and 'Observed individual values' in the list, as two separate options. Where can I find 'Adjusted estimated means and individual observed curves'? 


lease send the output and your license number to support@statmodel.com so we can see the exact situation. 


Hello, I have a quick question about plot3. When I select "adjusted estimated means" from the "view graphs" button I am not getting a variable list. I would like to view estimates of the outcome by different levels of the covariate, but none are coming up on the list to select. Any suggestions? 


When the “Covariate values for adjusted estimated means” appear, you must first name a covariate set. In the top right corner, enter a name for the covariate set next to the button “Name covariate set” and then click on that button. After you name a covariate set, the “Covariate values” section will be populated with the list of covariates for you to select. 


Dr. Muthen, Thank you for that reminder, that is exactly what I needed. I appreciate your help! Scott 

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